It all started when I shared this picture
It shows the actor, Taylor Lautner (who plays werewolf, Jacob in the recent Twilight films) wearing a shirt that has a message I agree with.
Anyway, I thought no more of it until a total jerk began leaving comments about it... I'm going to post the conversation as a whole just in case he decides to delete his posts at a later date, as other people have done in the past (which irritates me as it looks like I'm talking to myself).
Minty Autumn Ede The those states should be ashamed of themselves for having opinions on things that are none of their business... get over it!
Mikal Dmon when you involve the state seal you make it the people's business..You can't have your cake and eat it too..
Minty Autumn Ede What people chose to do regarding their love life concerns no one but the people involved when it is between consenting adults. The "cake" is a private affair and people need to cut their own cakes and stop telling others how to do it.
Mikal Dmon again, you're too committed to step back and see the point..States develop their own laws, and when you use the states seal to approve something, as the do in marriage, you're going to have to put up with the people's opinion..If you don't want them, stop asking states to hand out marriage licenses..
Mikal Dmon don't get to upset, I'm just playing devil's advocate, I really don't disagree with you..
Minty Autumn Ede It's not the peoples opinion, it's the state telling people the way it's going to be. Just because the state says it doesn't mean it's right. I have no idea what individual states do as I gladly don't live in one. I just fail to see why so many people seem to have such a strong opinion on something that directly contradicts personal freedom!
Minty Autumn Ede It just amazes me that a country as modern as America can still be so backwards regarding certain things... people have the right to bear arms and say whatever they like, but not to want to marry someone they love because they have the same genitals. It baffles me.
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Minty Autumn Ede Nor am I, but I recognise discrimination and enforced inequality when I see it. Neither can I blindly ignore nor condone it when I see people I love and care about being made to feel they're lesser or a "disgusting abomination" merely for loving another person who just happens to be the same gender :o(
Mikal Dmon enforced inequality??? people at hooters want to see big breast, small chest need not apply...I don't see any issue with that
Minty Autumn Ede What does that have to do with anything?!
Are you seriously comparing a chain of tacky restaurants that only employ large breasted women to denying people the right to marry because they're the same gender? That is like comparing Playboy ...See more
Mikal Dmon
before you criticize my point, you might try to understand it first..YOU said being LGBT is not a choice, well do you being small breasted is? Aren't they denied the same opportunity others have, like Gays are denied the opportunity others ...See more
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I'm not criticising your point, neither do I need to "understand it" as I'm saying the comparison is ridiculous! If someone wanted to work at Hooters so badly yet they lacked the breasts to do so they can either suck it up and find employment elsewhere or have a breast enlargement and get the job. They have a CHOICE.
The only way using the "small breast card" could possibly be relevant is if they were denied getting any job, anywhere because of it. That is obviously not the case so I still fail to see how the two are comparable!
Just because discrimination is still used, doesn't mean it is right to carry on doing so, especially in a area where it has no bearing upon anyone else's life. I have been the subject of discrimination my whole life because of my weight and to hear it used against people that cannot change the very aspect that it is used against is repugnant to me. I can lose weight, someone LGBT cannot change who they fall in love with.
I am not "fighting around" anything, you sir, seem determined to try and wander from the point by bringing up obstacles that are not only irrelevant but also ridiculous. Discrimination is not a "privilege" it is the way a society attempts to control something it has no business controlling. Until attitudes like the one you display are dead and buried there will be people that feel they have the right to use discrimination. I suggest you stop thinking of discrimination as a "privilege" and see it for what it really is... wrong and not welcome in the 21st century!
I shall continue to counter everything silly you say about this issue, so I suggest you just stop being "devil's advocate" and/or trying to argue a case that has already been lost. Get over it and just ssshh!
2 hours ago via Mobile ·
I still fail to see the correlation between same-sex marriage and working it a place that is one tiny t-shirt and a metal pole away from a strip club... one is a job and the other is a basic human right that only ever seems to be argued against by people it doesn't effect! I have never seen anyone that is LGBT saying that same-sex marriage is wrong... it is only heterosexuals, or religious heterosexuals that seem to have the problem. That speaks volumes to me.
Maybe it is my inner hippy... maybe it is just my asexuality that doesn't see a problem with same sex couples (I did at one stage wonder if I was a lesbian myself, until I realised that I'm just not that attracted to anyone, regardless of gender lol. I can appreciate a beautiful face no matter the sex of the possessor... maybe I'm a bi-asexual in that I'm not greatly attracted to either yet would not rule out a relationship with them?)
Apart from that my day has been ok... I was up all night with stomach problems... and I seem to have dreadful trouble sleeping at night, although I can sleep during the day (which at first I though was because I've been drinking coffee and cola a lot lately which has caffeine... but seeing as I can sleep during the day it can't be that). That is probably why I was so terse and short in my replies to "Mr. Devil's Advocate" up there ^^^ Lack of sleep with a pain chaser tends to rob me of my patience (sometimes I wonder if that is a good or bad thing... my patience sometimes stops me from saying what I really feel as I always try and be nice to people regardless of whether they warrant it or not!)
More from the "Idiot King of Facebook". I have since removed him as a friend and reported him for annoying me lol.
- Mikal Dmon
"For the record, I'm straight as well, yet I don't seem to use it as some kind of superiority card against those are not." Okay , I lost all interest in being nice.(I really was) However, I never SAID I find myself superior to anyone, YOUR ASSUMPTION ASSHOLE~UNDERSTANDING MY POINT, you would know I meant it as means of explaining my way of thinking..I speak from a heterosexual mindset, that often doesn't contemplate the plight of other..That being said, you ASSUME allot of things actually, which is the result of you talking AN NOT LISTENING..You have a problem running your mouth, you absolutely suck at understanding others..I bet you suck at allot of things...
Mikal Dmon "Show me one type of discrimination that is good.." Sex offenders have to register their residence, so parent can decided if they want to live next to one..This is good discrimination...I can provide more, but you only asked for one....Did you really think I couldn't defend my point?
Mikal Dmon "How can we reach the same conclusion when you somehow fail to grasp that any kind of discrimination is wrong" Have you ever tried raising a kid with a spouse? same objectives, but different ways of doing things..People are different, in case you didn't know
Mikal Dmon 1)"How can we reach the same conclusion when you somehow fail to grasp that any kind of discrimination is wrong" "I'm saying the comparison is ridiculous! 2)If someone wanted to work at Hooters so badly yet they lacked the breasts to do so they can either suck it up and find employment" When you stop contradicting yourself Minty, then we can talk
Mikal Dmon 1)"How can we reach the same conclusion when you somehow fail to grasp that any kind of discrimination is wrong" 2) "I'm saying the comparison is ridiculous! If someone wanted to work at Hooters so badly yet they lacked the breasts to do so they can either suck it up and find employment" When you stop contradicting yourself Minty, then we can talk
Mikal Dmon when you somehow fail to grasp that any kind of discrimination is wrong? I guess you never tried dating Minty, allot of discrimination in dating..I guess you didn't know that..
Mikal Dmon "when you somehow fail to grasp that any kind of discrimination is wrong?" I guess you never tried dating Minty, allot of discrimination in dating..I guess you didn't know that..
Minty Autumn Ede Do you have some kind of compulsion to constantly copy and paste the same thing over and over again? It makes no difference how many times you do it, you still make no sense. Idiot.
I don't want to talk to you... so just shut the fuck up and go the fuck away!
Discrimination in dating doesn't make it right... I fail to see what that has to with anything. But then you equate same-sex marriage as working in a bar with big chested waitresses, so why should I expect logic from you!
Tracking sex offenders is not discrimination... that is making sure the public as a whole is safe and that perpetrators don't' have a chance of re-offending. Do you even know what discrimination actually is? Sounds not from the "case" you're making. Enforcing the law for the safety of the public is not discrimination. It is basic common sense. You have not defended your point, you have just proved your ignorance of the English language... I suggest you purchase a dictionary to avoid future confusion when shooting yourself in the foot! Hahaha
LOL... someone that sees discrimination as a good thing calls me an asshole... I guess it takes one to recognise another.
I lost all interest in talking to you when you saw discrimination as a privilege... that makes you a bigger asshole than I could ever be. I hope you never have kids, or that if ypu do they take after their mother. I pity them greatly if they take after you. Asshat!
Don't reply anymore... you have nothing left to say that even makes sense... nor do I want to hear it. Seeing as I don't even know who the hell you are (I don't even recall adding you as a friend) I think it is time you left my profile for good. You are a vile creature... I can't even call you a man. Seeya.
