Showing posts with label ukp. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ukp. Show all posts

Saturday, 27 August 2011

A question about the term "fluffy" in Paganism

There was a question asked, about just what "fluffy" means (at a forum I used to go to all the time, but which I rarely go to anymore as I feel as if I now longer belong there as I'm not "Pagan enough!")

I was going to reply to the thread, but upon reflection I really didn't feel comfortable enough in doing so and so I'm posting it here instead (no doubt someone would have remarked about my post not actually replying to the question of the thread, and I just cannot be bothered in people arguing with me over it). My reply:


I'd be very surprised if there were any "fluffies" in the Valley, this place tends to knock that out of people very quickly! I know it did with me!

Reading the definitions of "fluffy" here made me laugh... and I fall into the "fluffy" spectrum in a good few areas (although not in my belief about angels and fairies, I don't believe in them). In regards to some of them I'm a very bad Pagan and probably should stop using the term in regards to myself as I don't appear to be Pagan enough.

Personally, I don't care how fluffy someone is, and it's taking me years to counteract the negative programming I received here towards terms like blessed be and merry meet (and subsequently my opinions of people that use them, too... when you are told enough to scorn the terms, eventually you end up scorning the people that use them as well, which is wrong!)

These days I don't care what people believe, I just care about how they treat me and others. It matters more to me. If people want to believe that all fairies are like Tinkerbell and are happy little pixies that only do good for people, who cares? Who are they hurting by believing that? No one (and if the Fae are offended by that I'm sure they are more than capable of doing something about it, not that I believe in the Fae, either).

People should have the right to believe whatever the hell they want, and none of us have any rights to tell them that they can't (or treat them as somehow lesser for holding beliefs we disagree with... that would make us elitists).


I would have posted it there, but there would be no point, I'd either be ignored or I'd be dog-piled and have people having a go at me for saying it and I truly can't be bothered with that kind of treatment! I seemed to routinely either get ignored or treated as somehow lesser for voicing my opinion over there in the past, so I no longer bother anymore (in fact I left for the longest time and returned a few weeks ago to find most of the people that seemed to take umbrage at my mere prescence had been banned, but there are still a few left). I just don't feel as if my opinions matter so why should I post anything there?!

I can honestly say that the only things I learned there were how to look down on people for believing things that I was meant to find ridiculous and how to be very cynical and condescending regarding people that dare to say things that are frowned upon (like merry meet and blessed be).

It is being back at places like that that make me not want to be pagan at all... if I'm meant to believe some of the things that they all believe I'd rather not bother with any of it!

They are fine with people believing in whatever they want, unless they don't agree with it and then you shouldn't believe it! I truly don't give a shit anymore... if people want to worship a clown riding a yellow unicycle round and round in a circle, that is up to them and as long as they don't tell me I have to believe in it too, it's all good.

I sometimes wonder if it's places like that that help make me so confused sometimes... if enough people tell you you're wrong for thinking a certain way, eventually you start to believe them so that you feel like you belong! It reminds me of the story of The Emperor's New Clothes, where anyone that couldn't see the wonderful fabric was a fool... and as no one wanted to be thought of as a fool they went along with the charade even though the King walked the streets stark naked!

I'm not prepared to spend my time defending my opinions against people that have no right to question them, so it's better for me to just stay away from those people!!!

Wednesday, 27 January 2010

I've decided to leave UKP...

... at least for now. After being quite shocked by the attitudes of some of the posters in the obesity thread (well one in particular... stupid cow)... and then after writing out a long reply and being totally ignored, I've come to the conclusion that I might as well not be there. I've felt that way for a while now, I always get the feeling that whatever I say is never good enough, appreciated or even wanted, so why should I waste my time anymore? **shrugs**

I've deleted everything over there, but I've left my blog as it will gradually get pushed down the listing as others update theirs... my avatar, sig, profile info and profile picture have all gone. I'm not going to tell anyone as there is no-one there that will care, so why bother. If I did then I would only get people coming along and slagging me off for being an attention whore and be accused of trying to get sympathy or trying to get people to change my mind... I've seen it happen before and I don't what to have it happen to me.

I've removed the link from my links here... if anyone wants to visit the forum go to http://thevalley.ukpagan.com... and good luck if you do!

Tuesday, 26 January 2010

That was a mistake!

Going to UKP and reading some of the posts... one was about obesity and I have just been enraged and disappointed by some of the things that I've read there. As a fat person I have faced a lot of verbal abuse over the years about my size... but apparently it is more or less my own fault for eating too much and exercising too little... it is that cut and dried!

[sarcasm] Why didn't I ever think of that? And there was me thinking that just because I happen to be fat that I deserved the right to go about my daily life without total strangers shouting disgusting things at me... silly me... maybe I should just kill myself so as not to offend people that don't give a shit if they offend, belittle and mock me!! [/sarcasm]

I have to say that I pity people that feel they have to be mean to others, just to make their friends laugh or make themselves feel better about their life. Just as well I don't feel the need to do the same really, isn't it?! Stupid, intolerant fuckwits would be top of my hit list, LOL!

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